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	<title>Comments on: {MISC.} Everlasting 15, not only 13, ELFs!!</title>
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		<title>By: Eunyat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eunyat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 12:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally love Mochi and Zhoumi! Because they are super talented and charming! Mochi is soooo cute! And Zhoumi is wow~ Handsome as always. I don&#039;t care what people said, they are part of Super Junior &gt;___&lt; Super Junior love them why not us, the one who suppose to support Super Junior all the time. Geez, just can&#039;t understand these people. To Mochi and Zhoumi, I HEART YOU GUYS! Prom15e to 13elive right??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally love Mochi and Zhoumi! Because they are super talented and charming! Mochi is soooo cute! And Zhoumi is wow~ Handsome as always. I don&#8217;t care what people said, they are part of Super Junior &gt;___&lt; Super Junior love them why not us, the one who suppose to support Super Junior all the time. Geez, just can&#039;t understand these people. To Mochi and Zhoumi, I HEART YOU GUYS! Prom15e to 13elive right??</p>
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		<title>By: dominoSH</title>
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		<dc:creator>dominoSH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>some Thai ELFs are degrading Malaysian ELFs in this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PBt7yR4D-w (the person who made this vid is a malaysian). and all those bashing comments are a day after the super awesome SS2 in malaysia. tsktsk. they&#039;re just jealous cuz ELF from all over the world are cheering for the Malaysian ELFs for giving a warm welcome to Mochi &amp; Mimi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>some Thai ELFs are degrading Malaysian ELFs in this vid <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PBt7yR4D-w" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PBt7yR4D-w</a> (the person who made this vid is a malaysian). and all those bashing comments are a day after the super awesome SS2 in malaysia. tsktsk. they&#8217;re just jealous cuz ELF from all over the world are cheering for the Malaysian ELFs for giving a warm welcome to Mochi &amp; Mimi.</p>
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		<title>By: Feenazz07</title>
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		<dc:creator>Feenazz07</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I support Super Junior EverLasting 15 too!! Zhoumi, Henry oppas, don&#039;t worry, you have us!! I love all of them, Leeteuk, Heechul, Hangeng, Yesung, Kangin, Shindong, Sungmin, Eunhyuk, Siwon, Zhoumi, Donghae, Ryeowook, Kibum, Kyuhyun and Henry, I will stand by you!! They too work hard.. Thank you TwELFs for posting this, I love you guys!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I support Super Junior EverLasting 15 too!! Zhoumi, Henry oppas, don&#8217;t worry, you have us!! I love all of them, Leeteuk, Heechul, Hangeng, Yesung, Kangin, Shindong, Sungmin, Eunhyuk, Siwon, Zhoumi, Donghae, Ryeowook, Kibum, Kyuhyun and Henry, I will stand by you!! They too work hard.. Thank you TwELFs for posting this, I love you guys!!</p>
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		<title>By: Sandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 07:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever it is, I will always support Super Junior Everlasting 15!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever it is, I will always support Super Junior Everlasting 15!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: nengvaleska</title>
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		<dc:creator>nengvaleska</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 14:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yawn. Yawn. Yawn. This is just the same old debate, like those on TV. Henry and Zhou Mi got thru some big deep shits too, I believe. Don&#039;t you think it didn&#039;t hurt to hear lots of narrow-minded people chanting &quot;only13&quot; blahblahblah? 

But again...like Uti said, this is business. Who are we to judge anyway..

I won&#039;t reject new members anyway. In fact, I&#039;d love to see new eye-candy. Yummy. Yummy. Yummy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yawn. Yawn. Yawn. This is just the same old debate, like those on TV. Henry and Zhou Mi got thru some big deep shits too, I believe. Don&#8217;t you think it didn&#8217;t hurt to hear lots of narrow-minded people chanting &#8220;only13&#8243; blahblahblah? </p>
<p>But again&#8230;like Uti said, this is business. Who are we to judge anyway..</p>
<p>I won&#8217;t reject new members anyway. In fact, I&#8217;d love to see new eye-candy. Yummy. Yummy. Yummy.</p>
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		<title>By: utiuts</title>
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		<dc:creator>utiuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@nana

Actually, yes. I support SM and whatever their marketing strategy is, cos I think SM is brilliant. I think you need to read the article and my comment even more carefully. I, for one thing, have just happened to understand how the BUSINESS works, and it&#039;s really not worth it to make such a fuss over it.

I agree with you, we are free to differ in opinions. I respect you and your opinion, just like you respect Leeteuk. However, as you can see, this site supports 13 AS A GROUP, 15 AS A FAMILY. You do understand what that means, right? Therefore, it would be very lovely if you keep the bashing to yourself. Let&#039;s have a healthy debate based on REASONABLE AND LOGICAL arguments, instead of inappropriate insults. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nana</p>
<p>Actually, yes. I support SM and whatever their marketing strategy is, cos I think SM is brilliant. I think you need to read the article and my comment even more carefully. I, for one thing, have just happened to understand how the BUSINESS works, and it&#8217;s really not worth it to make such a fuss over it.</p>
<p>I agree with you, we are free to differ in opinions. I respect you and your opinion, just like you respect Leeteuk. However, as you can see, this site supports 13 AS A GROUP, 15 AS A FAMILY. You do understand what that means, right? Therefore, it would be very lovely if you keep the bashing to yourself. Let&#8217;s have a healthy debate based on REASONABLE AND LOGICAL arguments, instead of inappropriate insults. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: myystiqueen</title>
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		<dc:creator>myystiqueen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-431&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@nana&lt;/a&gt;, please read the article above and myy replies carefully cause we have all the answers there..

we clearly stated: 13 as A (ONE) GROUP! so we acknowledge them as ONE group..

and leeteuk never said that zhou mi and henry are Super Junior members..

also, we SUPPORT 13 MEMBERS IN THE GROUP.. NO MORE NO LESS so please stop making it look like we have two different opinions..

it is totally up to you to like / accept henry and zhou mi or not but if you want to bash them, please keep it to yourself..

thank you for your understanding</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-431" rel="nofollow">@nana</a>, please read the article above and myy replies carefully cause we have all the answers there..</p>
<p>we clearly stated: 13 as A (ONE) GROUP! so we acknowledge them as ONE group..</p>
<p>and leeteuk never said that zhou mi and henry are Super Junior members..</p>
<p>also, we SUPPORT 13 MEMBERS IN THE GROUP.. NO MORE NO LESS so please stop making it look like we have two different opinions..</p>
<p>it is totally up to you to like / accept henry and zhou mi or not but if you want to bash them, please keep it to yourself..</p>
<p>thank you for your understanding</p>
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		<title>By: nana</title>
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		<dc:creator>nana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do not compare the two of them with Hangeng or any SuperJunior member

And do not compare what Henry and Zhoumi endured with what that 13 people have to go through

What 13 people have to go through are not simply difficult challenges and criticism  . They are tears and even blood

13 as group

So you think 13 people in superjunior simply 13 people in a group rather than a group

I said out my opinion clearly

they are just members of  SJM and although Eeteuk said that they are SuperJunior member, I always think of them as fins

I love Eeteuk, I respect him so I also need him to respect ELF&#039;s opinion like me 

I only wish to have 13 people in superjunior

13 is 1

so later if SM has add any member to superjunior. you will still accept them for one reason :&quot;It’s really not their fault. They totally don’t deserve the rejection. They work just as hard. Even harder, because they have to endure the rejection.&quot; 
&#039;______&#039;

And this is my last say on this

I&#039;m totally not interested in Henry and Zhoumi, if not hate them, bashing them then I just have this way

You and I have own opinion

I hold my opinion before I like Suju, and now my opinion is still the same</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do not compare the two of them with Hangeng or any SuperJunior member</p>
<p>And do not compare what Henry and Zhoumi endured with what that 13 people have to go through</p>
<p>What 13 people have to go through are not simply difficult challenges and criticism  . They are tears and even blood</p>
<p>13 as group</p>
<p>So you think 13 people in superjunior simply 13 people in a group rather than a group</p>
<p>I said out my opinion clearly</p>
<p>they are just members of  SJM and although Eeteuk said that they are SuperJunior member, I always think of them as fins</p>
<p>I love Eeteuk, I respect him so I also need him to respect ELF&#8217;s opinion like me </p>
<p>I only wish to have 13 people in superjunior</p>
<p>13 is 1</p>
<p>so later if SM has add any member to superjunior. you will still accept them for one reason :&#8221;It’s really not their fault. They totally don’t deserve the rejection. They work just as hard. Even harder, because they have to endure the rejection.&#8221;<br />
&#8216;______&#8217;</p>
<p>And this is my last say on this</p>
<p>I&#8217;m totally not interested in Henry and Zhoumi, if not hate them, bashing them then I just have this way</p>
<p>You and I have own opinion</p>
<p>I hold my opinion before I like Suju, and now my opinion is still the same</p>
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		<title>By: myystiqueen</title>
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		<dc:creator>myystiqueen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-385&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@nana&lt;/a&gt;, we know what only 13 means... some of them are only trying to protect the group... no more no less.. but when they keep bashing zhou mi and henry, it means they are also being disrespectful towards the other members cause believe it or not, the boys accept mochi and mimi as parts of the family..

we are not trying to say that Henry and Zhoumi should be added to the groups as we clearly mention 13 AS A GROUP, 15 AS A FAMILY

Leader teuk himself once said in Super Show 2 that fans should chant &quot;We will protect Super Junior&quot; instead of &quot;We will protect 13 members.&quot; cause it will hurt both henry and zhou mi
You can see it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bppQDBbxv9Y</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-385" rel="nofollow">@nana</a>, we know what only 13 means&#8230; some of them are only trying to protect the group&#8230; no more no less.. but when they keep bashing zhou mi and henry, it means they are also being disrespectful towards the other members cause believe it or not, the boys accept mochi and mimi as parts of the family..</p>
<p>we are not trying to say that Henry and Zhoumi should be added to the groups as we clearly mention 13 AS A GROUP, 15 AS A FAMILY</p>
<p>Leader teuk himself once said in Super Show 2 that fans should chant &#8220;We will protect Super Junior&#8221; instead of &#8220;We will protect 13 members.&#8221; cause it will hurt both henry and zhou mi<br />
You can see it here <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bppQDBbxv9Y" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bppQDBbxv9Y</a></p>
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		<title>By: utiuts</title>
		<link>http://www.twelfs.com/blog/2009/11/03/update-everlasting-15-not-only-13-elfs/comment-page-1/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>utiuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 16:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@nana
In my opinion, Henry and Zhoumi work as hard as the 13 boys. It&#039;s not their fault that they auditioned later than the boys. And people need to remember that it&#039;s not just a matter of the boyband that we love so much. They&#039;re involved in an industry. Putting Henry and Zhoumi in Super Junior is a marketing strategy to expand Super Junior market, exactly the reason why Hangeng was placed in Super Junior in the first place.
ELFs should be more mature in supporting their idols. It&#039;s really not Henry and Zhoumi&#039;s fault. They totally don&#039;t deserve the rejection. They work just as hard. Even harder, because they have to endure the rejection.

I agree with this article. Why don&#039;t we just accept them all as a family? The point of entertainment is to entertain us right? Well, those 15 boys surely entertain us girls. Why would we make such a fuss over how many members are there in a group? Even Super Junior will disband one day. Leeteuk said it himself. Why don&#039;t we just enjoy them while we can and don&#039;t think too much about it? 15 of them are great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@nana<br />
In my opinion, Henry and Zhoumi work as hard as the 13 boys. It&#8217;s not their fault that they auditioned later than the boys. And people need to remember that it&#8217;s not just a matter of the boyband that we love so much. They&#8217;re involved in an industry. Putting Henry and Zhoumi in Super Junior is a marketing strategy to expand Super Junior market, exactly the reason why Hangeng was placed in Super Junior in the first place.<br />
ELFs should be more mature in supporting their idols. It&#8217;s really not Henry and Zhoumi&#8217;s fault. They totally don&#8217;t deserve the rejection. They work just as hard. Even harder, because they have to endure the rejection.</p>
<p>I agree with this article. Why don&#8217;t we just accept them all as a family? The point of entertainment is to entertain us right? Well, those 15 boys surely entertain us girls. Why would we make such a fuss over how many members are there in a group? Even Super Junior will disband one day. Leeteuk said it himself. Why don&#8217;t we just enjoy them while we can and don&#8217;t think too much about it? 15 of them are great.</p>
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