Even though Super Junior M is debuted in a year and a half, we can still hear a lot of chants towards both Henry and Zhoumi. I don’t understand that why ELFs are so stubborn, why they can’t accept amazing people such as Henry and Zhoumi. I know that only 13’s ELF will say they only want to protect Super Junior, not intentionally to crush and hurt Henry and Zhoumi. But we already know that both Henry and Zhoumi are not belonging to Super Junior, why these only 13’s ELF still want to anti poor Henry and Zhoumi. Every time when I watched a video of Henry is performing, I heard the powerful chanting towards Henry, my heart begins to be torn up, and my tears start to blow out. Especially when I watched the dream concert, I realize that there were no cheers for Henry at all when he had individual performances, which suddenly I feel heartbroken at that moment. Moreover, in Sohu’s fan meeting and some current interviews, I also found that Henry has fewer fans than other members (no including Zhoumi). One more thing is that in that CCTV’s interviews, the host and fans just celebrated Donehae’s birthday, not both Henry’s and Donghae’s.
Why do I want to support Everlasting 15 not only 13? As we can see from the video of Henry’s 20th birthday, Super Junior’s oppas all love Henry and they all accept him as a member of their Super Junior’s family. Ok, I know that you want to say Super Junior M and Super Junior are two different groups. However, Super Junior M still has the name of Super Junior, and it’s also a sub-group of Super Junior. Does a branch of a tree not belong to the tree itself? Only 13’s ELF, can you guys just give some respects to Henry and Zhoumi? They really deserve more cheers and loves. Can you guys not be so selfish? In short, I want to say Everlasting 15 outloud in front of millions of only 13’s ELFS!!!
We can’t stress on this enough… TwELFs support Everlasting 15!! well.. it’s kinda obvious since SJ-M is practically everywhere ^^ but what we’d like everyone to have in mind 13 AS A GROUP, 15 AS A FAMILY! we can’t expect everyone to like or accept both Zhoumi and Henry but please respect them and don’t go around bashing them.
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Ever since I saw Henry in SJ-M’s “U” MV, I accepted him already as a family in SJ and even Zhoumi. They may not be a SJ member, but they are SME talents.
13 AS A GROUP, 15 AS A FAMILY! — I agree with this.
@nana
In my opinion, Henry and Zhoumi work as hard as the 13 boys. It’s not their fault that they auditioned later than the boys. And people need to remember that it’s not just a matter of the boyband that we love so much. They’re involved in an industry. Putting Henry and Zhoumi in Super Junior is a marketing strategy to expand Super Junior market, exactly the reason why Hangeng was placed in Super Junior in the first place.
ELFs should be more mature in supporting their idols. It’s really not Henry and Zhoumi’s fault. They totally don’t deserve the rejection. They work just as hard. Even harder, because they have to endure the rejection.
I agree with this article. Why don’t we just accept them all as a family? The point of entertainment is to entertain us right? Well, those 15 boys surely entertain us girls. Why would we make such a fuss over how many members are there in a group? Even Super Junior will disband one day. Leeteuk said it himself. Why don’t we just enjoy them while we can and don’t think too much about it? 15 of them are great.
@nana, we know what only 13 means… some of them are only trying to protect the group… no more no less.. but when they keep bashing zhou mi and henry, it means they are also being disrespectful towards the other members cause believe it or not, the boys accept mochi and mimi as parts of the family..
we are not trying to say that Henry and Zhoumi should be added to the groups as we clearly mention 13 AS A GROUP, 15 AS A FAMILY
Leader teuk himself once said in Super Show 2 that fans should chant “We will protect Super Junior” instead of “We will protect 13 members.” cause it will hurt both henry and zhou mi
You can see it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bppQDBbxv9Y
Do not compare the two of them with Hangeng or any SuperJunior member
And do not compare what Henry and Zhoumi endured with what that 13 people have to go through
What 13 people have to go through are not simply difficult challenges and criticism . They are tears and even blood
13 as group
So you think 13 people in superjunior simply 13 people in a group rather than a group
I said out my opinion clearly
they are just members of SJM and although Eeteuk said that they are SuperJunior member, I always think of them as fins
I love Eeteuk, I respect him so I also need him to respect ELF’s opinion like me
I only wish to have 13 people in superjunior
13 is 1
so later if SM has add any member to superjunior. you will still accept them for one reason :”It’s really not their fault. They totally don’t deserve the rejection. They work just as hard. Even harder, because they have to endure the rejection.”
‘______’
And this is my last say on this
I’m totally not interested in Henry and Zhoumi, if not hate them, bashing them then I just have this way
You and I have own opinion
I hold my opinion before I like Suju, and now my opinion is still the same
Actually, yes. I support SM and whatever their marketing strategy is, cos I think SM is brilliant. I think you need to read the article and my comment even more carefully. I, for one thing, have just happened to understand how the BUSINESS works, and it’s really not worth it to make such a fuss over it.
I agree with you, we are free to differ in opinions. I respect you and your opinion, just like you respect Leeteuk. However, as you can see, this site supports 13 AS A GROUP, 15 AS A FAMILY. You do understand what that means, right? Therefore, it would be very lovely if you keep the bashing to yourself. Let’s have a healthy debate based on REASONABLE AND LOGICAL arguments, instead of inappropriate insults. Thank you.
Yawn. Yawn. Yawn. This is just the same old debate, like those on TV. Henry and Zhou Mi got thru some big deep shits too, I believe. Don’t you think it didn’t hurt to hear lots of narrow-minded people chanting “only13″ blahblahblah?
But again…like Uti said, this is business. Who are we to judge anyway..
I won’t reject new members anyway. In fact, I’d love to see new eye-candy. Yummy. Yummy. Yummy.
I support Super Junior EverLasting 15 too!! Zhoumi, Henry oppas, don’t worry, you have us!! I love all of them, Leeteuk, Heechul, Hangeng, Yesung, Kangin, Shindong, Sungmin, Eunhyuk, Siwon, Zhoumi, Donghae, Ryeowook, Kibum, Kyuhyun and Henry, I will stand by you!! They too work hard.. Thank you TwELFs for posting this, I love you guys!!
some Thai ELFs are degrading Malaysian ELFs in this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PBt7yR4D-w (the person who made this vid is a malaysian). and all those bashing comments are a day after the super awesome SS2 in malaysia. tsktsk. they’re just jealous cuz ELF from all over the world are cheering for the Malaysian ELFs for giving a warm welcome to Mochi & Mimi.
I totally love Mochi and Zhoumi! Because they are super talented and charming! Mochi is soooo cute! And Zhoumi is wow~ Handsome as always. I don’t care what people said, they are part of Super Junior >___< Super Junior love them why not us, the one who suppose to support Super Junior all the time. Geez, just can't understand these people. To Mochi and Zhoumi, I HEART YOU GUYS! Prom15e to 13elive right??
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adl commented on Nov 3, 2009 at 11:10 AM
support Everlasting 15!!!!!!!
Henry and Zhoumi are just too great to be ignored……
icweq commented on Nov 3, 2009 at 11:26 AM
13 as a GROUP . 15 as a FAMILY. that’s cool .
The cute magnae,Henry. . . i always support u. . XD
I hope k-ELFs can open their hearts to accept Henry and Zhoumi, ASAP !!
mia commented on Nov 3, 2009 at 12:44 PM
wo ai ni to whoever wrote that !
my thoughts exactly
i’m sure some only13 elf’s are just following the crowd T_T
why do such meaningless things ?
anonymously commented on Nov 3, 2009 at 01:55 PM
i love both of them. at first, i can’t accept zhoumi even as a part of sjm. but now, i can accept him. he’s great too.. ^^
nengvaleska commented on Nov 3, 2009 at 06:14 PM
I’ve been wondering why. why oh why do those people reject the existence of two incredibly handsome guys?
Princess Q commented on Nov 3, 2009 at 08:54 PM
Ever since I saw Henry in SJ-M’s “U” MV, I accepted him already as a family in SJ and even Zhoumi. They may not be a SJ member, but they are SME talents.
13 AS A GROUP, 15 AS A FAMILY! — I agree with this.
nana commented on Nov 4, 2009 at 12:03 AM
Can you understand what only13 means ?
Can you understand what that 13 people had to go through to be successful today
Do not say Suju15 so simply
Although Henry and Zhoumi are members, are family of SJM. Just SJM and they can not change sujuonly 13 forever
sukira commented on Nov 4, 2009 at 12:07 AM
i already accepted super junior as 15.. zhoumi and henry are great contributions for super junior…
i agree too..
13 AS A GROUP, 15 AS A FAMILY.
utiuts commented on Nov 4, 2009 at 01:12 AM
@nana
In my opinion, Henry and Zhoumi work as hard as the 13 boys. It’s not their fault that they auditioned later than the boys. And people need to remember that it’s not just a matter of the boyband that we love so much. They’re involved in an industry. Putting Henry and Zhoumi in Super Junior is a marketing strategy to expand Super Junior market, exactly the reason why Hangeng was placed in Super Junior in the first place.
ELFs should be more mature in supporting their idols. It’s really not Henry and Zhoumi’s fault. They totally don’t deserve the rejection. They work just as hard. Even harder, because they have to endure the rejection.
I agree with this article. Why don’t we just accept them all as a family? The point of entertainment is to entertain us right? Well, those 15 boys surely entertain us girls. Why would we make such a fuss over how many members are there in a group? Even Super Junior will disband one day. Leeteuk said it himself. Why don’t we just enjoy them while we can and don’t think too much about it? 15 of them are great.
myystiqueen commented on Nov 4, 2009 at 02:24 AM
@nana, we know what only 13 means… some of them are only trying to protect the group… no more no less.. but when they keep bashing zhou mi and henry, it means they are also being disrespectful towards the other members cause believe it or not, the boys accept mochi and mimi as parts of the family..
we are not trying to say that Henry and Zhoumi should be added to the groups as we clearly mention 13 AS A GROUP, 15 AS A FAMILY
Leader teuk himself once said in Super Show 2 that fans should chant “We will protect Super Junior” instead of “We will protect 13 members.” cause it will hurt both henry and zhou mi
You can see it here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bppQDBbxv9Y
nana commented on Nov 4, 2009 at 10:19 PM
Do not compare the two of them with Hangeng or any SuperJunior member
And do not compare what Henry and Zhoumi endured with what that 13 people have to go through
What 13 people have to go through are not simply difficult challenges and criticism . They are tears and even blood
13 as group
So you think 13 people in superjunior simply 13 people in a group rather than a group
I said out my opinion clearly
they are just members of SJM and although Eeteuk said that they are SuperJunior member, I always think of them as fins
I love Eeteuk, I respect him so I also need him to respect ELF’s opinion like me
I only wish to have 13 people in superjunior
13 is 1
so later if SM has add any member to superjunior. you will still accept them for one reason :”It’s really not their fault. They totally don’t deserve the rejection. They work just as hard. Even harder, because they have to endure the rejection.”
‘______’
And this is my last say on this
I’m totally not interested in Henry and Zhoumi, if not hate them, bashing them then I just have this way
You and I have own opinion
I hold my opinion before I like Suju, and now my opinion is still the same
myystiqueen commented on Nov 4, 2009 at 10:36 PM
@nana, please read the article above and myy replies carefully cause we have all the answers there..
we clearly stated: 13 as A (ONE) GROUP! so we acknowledge them as ONE group..
and leeteuk never said that zhou mi and henry are Super Junior members..
also, we SUPPORT 13 MEMBERS IN THE GROUP.. NO MORE NO LESS so please stop making it look like we have two different opinions..
it is totally up to you to like / accept henry and zhou mi or not but if you want to bash them, please keep it to yourself..
thank you for your understanding
utiuts commented on Nov 4, 2009 at 10:46 PM
@nana
Actually, yes. I support SM and whatever their marketing strategy is, cos I think SM is brilliant. I think you need to read the article and my comment even more carefully. I, for one thing, have just happened to understand how the BUSINESS works, and it’s really not worth it to make such a fuss over it.
I agree with you, we are free to differ in opinions. I respect you and your opinion, just like you respect Leeteuk. However, as you can see, this site supports 13 AS A GROUP, 15 AS A FAMILY. You do understand what that means, right? Therefore, it would be very lovely if you keep the bashing to yourself. Let’s have a healthy debate based on REASONABLE AND LOGICAL arguments, instead of inappropriate insults. Thank you.
nengvaleska commented on Nov 4, 2009 at 11:39 PM
Yawn. Yawn. Yawn. This is just the same old debate, like those on TV. Henry and Zhou Mi got thru some big deep shits too, I believe. Don’t you think it didn’t hurt to hear lots of narrow-minded people chanting “only13″ blahblahblah?
But again…like Uti said, this is business. Who are we to judge anyway..
I won’t reject new members anyway. In fact, I’d love to see new eye-candy. Yummy. Yummy. Yummy.
Sandra commented on Nov 28, 2009 at 04:06 PM
Whatever it is, I will always support Super Junior Everlasting 15!!!!!
Feenazz07 commented on Feb 8, 2010 at 09:14 PM
I support Super Junior EverLasting 15 too!! Zhoumi, Henry oppas, don’t worry, you have us!! I love all of them, Leeteuk, Heechul, Hangeng, Yesung, Kangin, Shindong, Sungmin, Eunhyuk, Siwon, Zhoumi, Donghae, Ryeowook, Kibum, Kyuhyun and Henry, I will stand by you!! They too work hard.. Thank you TwELFs for posting this, I love you guys!!
dominoSH commented on Mar 22, 2010 at 10:35 PM
some Thai ELFs are degrading Malaysian ELFs in this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PBt7yR4D-w (the person who made this vid is a malaysian). and all those bashing comments are a day after the super awesome SS2 in malaysia. tsktsk. they’re just jealous cuz ELF from all over the world are cheering for the Malaysian ELFs for giving a warm welcome to Mochi & Mimi.
Eunyat commented on Apr 12, 2010 at 09:35 PM
I totally love Mochi and Zhoumi! Because they are super talented and charming! Mochi is soooo cute! And Zhoumi is wow~ Handsome as always. I don’t care what people said, they are part of Super Junior >___< Super Junior love them why not us, the one who suppose to support Super Junior all the time. Geez, just can't understand these people. To Mochi and Zhoumi, I HEART YOU GUYS! Prom15e to 13elive right??